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http://www.alestethmar.net/home/content/view/922/100/


above is the link for my article

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:49 am
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Salam Suliman:

First, please forgive me if I'm going to be harsh on criticizing the "article".

Well, I want to know if that's the whole article posted there. It's less than a page long containing little to none useful info on the topic. So, the biggest weakness of the article, in my opinion, is its lack of information.

First, it needs a thoughough definition of a what an E Gov is. After reading the article, i still don't know what an E gov is.

Second, there isn't even one example of what it could be used for; what kind of services will it offer to the public? What benefits can the actual physical government get by implementing an E gov?.....etc. Alot of examples are needed to convince us of the importance of having an E Gov.


Then, after you explaining what an E gov is and what services it will offer..., then you need to evaluate the situation in Yemen. What has been done in this regard? What are the obstacles? What could be done? How are Yemenis going to benefit from the E gov? .....etc. Each one of those questions can be answered in one or more paragraphs.


Besides lack of information, the article had other weaknesses. Why do we need to compare ourselves to "neighboring countries"? Who cares if they have succeeded or not in implemented an E gov? We are special and have special situation that differs from any neighboring country. India? There might be a lot of poor people there, but the country itself is rich and one of hte biggest industrial forces in the globe!! There's basically no comparison.

I think that if we want to push for something, we should not compare ourselves with others. Instead, we should ask ourselves "why not do this or that?" not "Look, even such and such have this and that!". Why don't we have an E gov? We have blah blah blah (resources), we can have benefits blah blah blah(benefits)....etc. If we determine we can do it, then "why not?".


Finally, there were spelling errors, i guess.

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كيف يمكن أن نوجد حكومة اليكترونية وتعاملات تجارية وانترنت مصرفي وإلا ألان الوعي قليل باستخدام الكمبيوتر!؟

I think it should be الى

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هناك مستثمرين وهناك جامعيين وهناك أيضا أجانب بلاضافه إلى أعداد لا باس بها تنمو مع الأيام في اليمن .

?? اعداد؟ a growing numbers of what in Yemen?

Quote:
توفير الخدمات على مدار الساعة وطول السنة وبشافية عالية .


??


Again, no hard feelings; this is just my personal opinion on the article.

Salam

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Post Re: E Goverment in yemen and The Yemeni public
Thank you for sharing this article, and as you requested i am happy to provide my feedback at the level of my understanding for your article.

First:

I salute you for having the courage and the spirit to write about such topics, i get happy to see that our youth are trying to help in spreading the knowledge, so thank you

Second:

I agree with Waleed, the article is short. I expected to see more on the subject. E-gov is a huge subject to write about, and you could have chosen a part of it to cover. There has been many initiatives in Yemen related to E-Gov, one of them was the UNDP Project, and Now the WB Project with the Treasury.
You could've included such information in your article to make it better.

Third:

There are many spelling mistakes in the article. I do not balme you for that, but the editor should've profread it before posting it on the magazine. other than what Waleed mentioned, here are what i spotted :


الاليكترونية

and the right spelling is:

الإلكترونية

وستستمر الأمور لدينا انه معنا حكومة اليكترونية .

It does not sound right

الدول الخليجية لازالت إلى الآن

the right structure is:

لازالت الدول الخليجية

هناك لأسف

the right spelling is

للأسف

على أدراج

the right spelling is

إدراج


بلاضافه إلى

the right spelling is:

بالإضافة

and also the punctuation marks... there are a lot missing.


Finally:

I hope you take these comments in a positive way, we can learn from each others.... I also hope that you can share yuor next article with the people here, i am sure they can be of a termendous help.

If you think you should write an article about E-Governance again, i can help you by providing some good papers (in English), you can use them as a resource for this article.

Thanks

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Nice article Suliman.

Waleed and Ameen have provided enough feedback on the article. I'd like to mention that one of the main urdles towards e-Anything in Yemen is the lack of proper IT infrastructure. This is an article I wrote for Shabab Yemeni once, that elaborate more on this:
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Information technology (IT) and the ability to effectively use it is a critical factor in accessing wealth, power and knowledge at the dawn of the new millennium. The Arabic world is considered, by and large, one of the least computerized and technologically underdeveloped regions in the world.

This back lag makes it utterly impossible for the Arabic countries to compete at an international level in manufacturing technology or providing high quality advanced services. There are many reasons for such technological apartheid ranging from the absence of a proper infrastructure, to the lack of qualified personnel in the field of technology and the discouraging IT market. In this article, I will try to highlight these obstacles in a Yemeni context.


In Yemen, the infrastructure required to use computers is far from adequate. We have no reliable power supplies to begin with; electricity blackouts have become a routine in our daily lives. The telecommunication infrastructure is another issue with most of the country having no phone lines to say the least. Most rural areas, accommodating 70% of the population, have virtually no network connectivity. This contributes to the large computer illiteracy and makes information technology inaccessible for a large segment of the population.

Also, in a fast-changing world, training is a must to keep up with the technology pace and the new developments in the field. Yet, the limited IT-related programs offered by Yemeni universities are very primitive and do not train good academicians nor are they tailored to satisfy the market needs. Universities make no effort to recruit highly qualified instructors or researchers in computer science disciplines, and tend to piggyback teaching computer courses on faculty members from other engineering departments. There are even students with IT bachelor degrees from Yemeni universities who get jobs as teachers in the faculties they graduated from. I made these observations after talking with many computer science students and faculty members during my last visit to Yemen. This poor IT training is reflected in the poor outcomes and greatly affects our transition into a more computerized society.

Another issue contributing to our technological backwardness is the discouraging IT market. Most businesses in Yemen are unaware of the importance of computerizing their systems and by how much their productivity could increase, and as a result they don’t seem to be interested in IT products. And because of the lack of established technology providers, businesses that choose to computerize their systems will most likely outsource their jobs abroad. This affects the economy at large by not utilizing technology for an increased productivity and contributes very little demand for local IT supply.

In a poor country like Yemen, we have to capitalize on every resource we have, and brainpower is one of our best treasures. This could only be achieved by providing a proper infrastructure for information technology to prevail, establishing cutting edge training centers and research facilities, and encouraging investment in the IT market. But in an ad-hoc system of government like the one we have, it seems quite impossible for Yemen to be computerized anytime soon.


http://www.shababyemeni.com/en/index.ph ... 7&Itemid=5

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Post Re: E Goverment in yemen and The Yemeni public
hello Guys
Am really so honor and thankful for your concern over the article

Guys,the article is so short because i have been given one column in the magazine of investment which is a monthly column the space is so short I told them to give me much more space they have offered just that.

In addition,I tried to assume that E government is already spoken about but we don't see it on the ground because of so and so excuses.

I had met with some people in charge of E goverment in the Yemeni G Sector they are till now saying its A Cd programme and thats all.

some other says we are speaking about basic things and you mr sulaiman speaking about E goverment


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Comparing with other it has got some embeded inside meanning people who reads will understand what i mean.

We are approching GCC to join
We are Receciving Investors


But whallahi iam so proud to be among you guys and my article evaluated

you could refere to my previous posts on YSAA all of it carrys my privous article

as iam PHD CFA Reacher and University Sains Malaysia


Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:10 am
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Hello Suliman,

Great to have you back,

I wish you can share your future article with us, the guys here are more than happy to help..

We are re-constructing the fourms now, and we will have a special section for talents like yours, and we wish you become part of that.

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Sorry for the late reply, but sometimes I miss such interesting posts.

This response could be long so I suggest you go to another topic, because brother Yemenreform is about to start talking to himself again. :D

1- That template for the Istithmar site is excellent. I am not sure who is working on the site, but they did good job. I would recommend it for ShababYemeni.com.

2- I know its not polite to start with the negative, but the article was kind of short and had some spellings errors.

3- I loved the topic and my mind started wondering about the potential of e-government and the obstacles we have in yemen. (Here the morning caffeine starts kicking in. Not Starbucks)

This why I recommend that you do a series of articles on the topic and interviews with members of the government and the technological elite at our universities.

Here are my thoughts
The Obstacles:
A- Yemenis are not technologically savvy. Very few Yemenis will benefit from this service because many of them are not connected to the internet.
B- There is unstable electrical power supply that makes difficult for Yemenis to conduct government business online.
C- We should not compare Yemen to China, India, or gulf countries, because we have special circumstances and problems.
D- I am sure there are more complicated obstacles that my simple mind cannot comprehend at the moment because of all the enthusiasm. We will keep those for later.

The way forward:
A- This service can be brought to the regular person on the street that does not have a landline or a modem or a computer at home.
There are many shops that connect to the internet in many of our major cities and they serve a reasonable number of our population. If we were to license these shops to conduct government transactions online (for a convenience fee :) ) their computers and network connections would need would need to be tested for virus and spyware vulnerabilities as well as a thousand other security holes.

Lets not forget the potential for cell phones as another way to access banks and conduct digital transactions including e-government.

B- If this service was provided to foreign investors the benefits would result in increased jobs for the regular Yemeni worker and college graduate.

So you see from above how e-government can start by benefiting the rich and can be made accessible to a reasonable number of city dwellers and maybe villagers that have wireless cell phone connections.

Examples of e-government transactions:
1- for the average person and small businesses. Can you imagine not having to take the day off and waste gas and stand on long lines to pay your utility bills. I am sure there are many more examples to save time and money.

2- For foreign investors. I think the government has done a lot to lure foreign investment into Yemen. This would be the icing on the cake. It would be nice to have the ability to submit applications and receive feedback online of any deficiencies and address them in minutes by using email. You only need to show up once to bring any original documents and officially sign the papers.

Somewhat Off-Topic

I think we should compare ourselves to other countries and consider our special circumstances and beat them.
If you think about what can Yemen do in this new industrialized world? Can we open glass and steel factories and export commodities to the world? Well, it has not been easy.

It is easier to use "Yemeni brain power" . That is the easiest commodity we can export out of Yemen. It does not take a lot of startup money or machines or natural resources to begin exporting digital materials through the internet.

India has been able to use this digital power at minimal cost and maximum benefit. It is called outsourcing. There are people that are paying thousands of dollars for digital software and code modules that can be easily done in yemen for a competitive fraction of their cost in Europe and America.

As an example, I know someone who was trying to professionally redo their company website and was getting outrageous in the thousands of dollars for his small business. He found a company online that was welling to do for less than a thousand. After the product was delivered and he was happy with it at that price, he found out that it was done by a programmer in India. This company in New York was using programmers in India for its contracts and making a good commission in the process.

The skills that were involved in designing the site could be taught any Yemeni university in less than a year. Can you imagine if that was a Yemeni college student that did that job. I don't see why not. Sure there are more complicated programming jobs like Java and C++ and that would need more years to master

Other things that use "Yemeni brain power" are in the media
Yemen has great poets and religious leaders.

We might not have the sexy females, but if we use our media outlets well enough we can become a credible source of information. Better than CNN and Aljazeerah. Our students in theater should think more creatively on how to address social issues around the Middle East and make better shows that will make Bab Al-7arah look like Baraktna :)

These are all dreams, but there is no reason why they can not become reality with some basic initiative, planning, and support.

Please, let me know if you managed to read the whole thing and be kind and polite with your responses.

best regards to sulimanco for keeping the dream alive

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Wow! Thanks Yemenreform for the rich reply! It's gr8 to hear from u again. :)


Thanks, Osama for the article. :o



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Hi everyone
1st can I say a good article ok you might have needed some bad improvements but HEY!!! We all learn from our mistakes. So keep up with the good work.
Can I also say there are lots of Yemeni people I know in the UK who have gone through the education system in Yemen and yes gone to university? This is good. However if you come to the UK now and see most of these Yemeni’s who have there degrees at least 80% of them are shopkeepers or butchers. Or are sitting on there backside doing nothing.
I had to fight to go to school because my family wanted me to work in a shop but thank goodness for the supermarket that opened up down the road from my dads shop. It made my parents realise that working in a shop is no longer a life secure job like it was for the last generation.
The new generation of Yemenis are fighting for jobs but I don’t see them being pushed or even having role models to look up to. This is a big problem in the UK.
All my Yemeni friend’s parents and mine are worried about are when and if there children are going to get married before they are 20.
(My opinions based on my experience living in the UK what I have seen with my eyes so don’t quote me or get upset.)
Sorry for being negative but it’s hard to find something good to say about Yemen. It has so much potential to be a better nation but the people and government are holding it back.


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